Gaming Chat => Call Of Duty Series => Call Of Duty 6 => Topic started by: Veni Vidi Vici on October 17, 2009, 07:57:07 PM
Title: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Veni Vidi Vici on October 17, 2009, 07:57:07 PM
Well guys, I found this and I personally think it's horrible news. I would highly recommend you listen to the whole thing but fourzerotwo from IW calls in and talks about the PC details at around 1:38 or so. Right now, I'm honestly really really worried about this game. I think the only good news besides no delay, is that PB is gone and now they will use VAC.
He doesn't know if there will be any way for the community to mod it or support the game later on and he doesn't say what the limit of players is going to be. There's a ton of stuff they talk about and most of it I'm very worried about.
Anyways....here's the link:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2369799
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Evilgenius on October 17, 2009, 08:15:55 PM
i see nuthin but a manycam thing
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: smitty1258 on October 17, 2009, 08:19:55 PM
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Veni Vidi Vici on October 17, 2009, 08:22:13 PM
It has a little screen that shows that ManyCam ad but on my computer it starts the recorded chat they had. It's only audio. I'm not sure why it's not working for you. Maybe try pushing the play button or skipping ahead a little and pressing play. Not sure. Let me know if others are having the same problem.
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Veni Vidi Vici on October 17, 2009, 08:25:06 PM
There you go. That's the same podcast that I had linked only from a different website.
This definitely has me rethinking this game. The was THE game that I was looking forward to but now it has me so worried about what they are doing to it that I'm not sure I want it. Especially since they charge more for the game.
It feels like they just castrated the PC.
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: heartsfan on October 17, 2009, 08:31:04 PM
This will fail big time!
I see all CoD games made after MW2 being console only.
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Evilgenius on October 17, 2009, 09:09:14 PM
oh sound only lol
works when i turn sound on lol
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Veni Vidi Vici on October 17, 2009, 09:19:24 PM
Basically, this means:
Limited number of players. Similar to consoles.
No mods
Poor clan support
Affects matches, scrims, etc.
Poor online performance due to local hosting.
Possible monthly fees to play online. They mention that possibility.
Paying for all the DLC- no more free maps
No custom maps at all.
Game Server Providers are going to lose a TON of money
I'm sure I'm missing a lot here. I'm still in shock. This fuckin sucks. I had just preordered the game TODAY! Tomorrow I'm getting a refund.
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Knott on October 17, 2009, 10:16:06 PM
lol wow, fuck you mw2 thats fuckin terrible. i cannot belive they are selling out what a bunch of cock suckin faggots, now its gonna be a fuckin lag fest, hack fest, bullshit fest. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 -15 fucking DOUCHESSSSSSS
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: vonDuTch on October 18, 2009, 06:20:48 AM
I think the mods on the forum deleting all the threads about it, thats confirmation enough. lol
Lol...yup...that confirmed it for me. They are deleting everything on the forum. All of the petitions keep getting deleted too...at least that's what the posters there are saying.
If people keep up with the shit storms, I think IW might rethink their strategy and perhaps offer dedi's later on in a patch or something. Then again, I'm sure IW has invested a ton of money into this IWNET system and I don't think they're going to just drop it.
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Major Chachi on October 18, 2009, 12:03:27 PM
So many threads are getting deleted. It's crazy. I agree with Smitty about petitions; they won't do diddly squat.
We need to wait for official confirmation. It's all spec now :(
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: smitty1258 on October 18, 2009, 06:06:11 PM
I think the mods on the forum deleting all the threads about it, thats confirmation enough. lol
Lol...yup...that confirmed it for me. They are deleting everything on the forum. All of the petitions keep getting deleted too...at least that's what the posters there are saying.
If people keep up with the shit storms, I think IW might rethink their strategy and perhaps offer dedi's later on in a patch or something. Then again, I'm sure IW has invested a ton of money into this IWNET system and I don't think they're going to just drop it.
All that extra money they "invested" would be coming from that extra $10 price tag on the game, to support there servers. Dont be surprised one bit if a monthly fee comes along somewhere, as well as $$ for DLC.
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Major Chachi on October 18, 2009, 06:13:13 PM
I think the mods on the forum deleting all the threads about it, thats confirmation enough. lol
Lol...yup...that confirmed it for me. They are deleting everything on the forum. All of the petitions keep getting deleted too...at least that's what the posters there are saying.
If people keep up with the shit storms, I think IW might rethink their strategy and perhaps offer dedi's later on in a patch or something. Then again, I'm sure IW has invested a ton of money into this IWNET system and I don't think they're going to just drop it.
All that extra money they "invested" would be coming from that extra $10 price tag on the game, to support there servers. Dont be surprised one bit if a monthly fee comes along somewhere, as well as $$ for DLC.
That's extreme. Come on. There will be no monthly fee. Steam doesn't even have a yearly fee. There will be no fee. DLC.....maybe.
I know DLC for xbox is usually pushed for a fee by Microsoft, NOT the developer, etc.
IWnet shouldn't be all that bad. I know there will be little-no modding, maps, etc. But it's shouldn't be that bad.
We have NO IDEA how good or bad it will be until we get our hands on it. period.
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: DirtOne on October 18, 2009, 07:13:05 PM
It looks bad overall since the game wont be the same.. and yea there are rumors about monthly fee. but again this all is just rumors.. but a monthly fee wtf? is this wow?
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Major Chachi on October 18, 2009, 07:15:31 PM
It looks bad overall since the game wont be the same.. and yea there are rumors about monthly fee. but again this all is just rumors.. but a monthly fee wtf? is this wow?
seriously? ......
source pls.
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: DirtOne on October 18, 2009, 07:22:18 PM
It looks bad overall since the game wont be the same.. and yea there are rumors about monthly fee. but again this all is just rumors.. but a monthly fee wtf? is this wow?
seriously? ......
source pls.
hhmm smitty posted a link somewhere to a post in bashhandslash too lazy to look for it since there are 300 threads about this but in that site u will get all the facts about it since it was in their podcast all this crap was announced
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Major Chachi on October 18, 2009, 07:24:16 PM
It looks bad overall since the game wont be the same.. and yea there are rumors about monthly fee. but again this all is just rumors.. but a monthly fee wtf? is this wow?
seriously? ......
source pls.
hhmm smitty posted a link somewhere to a post in bashhandslash too lazy to look for it since there are 300 threads about this but in that site u will get all the facts about it since it was in their podcast all this crap was announced
lol ok
I don't remember a monthly fee being discussed, but ok :)
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: DirtOne on October 18, 2009, 07:28:58 PM
It looks bad overall since the game wont be the same.. and yea there are rumors about monthly fee. but again this all is just rumors.. but a monthly fee wtf? is this wow?
seriously? ......
source pls.
hhmm smitty posted a link somewhere to a post in bashhandslash too lazy to look for it since there are 300 threads about this but in that site u will get all the facts about it since it was in their podcast all this crap was announced
lol ok
I don't remember a monthly fee being discussed, but ok :)
it mayhave been somewhere else i dont remenber but all i kno its that a montly fee is also a RUMOR, like this whole thing.. let me check where i got it from
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Major Chachi on October 18, 2009, 07:32:50 PM
It looks bad overall since the game wont be the same.. and yea there are rumors about monthly fee. but again this all is just rumors.. but a monthly fee wtf? is this wow?
seriously? ......
source pls.
hhmm smitty posted a link somewhere to a post in bashhandslash too lazy to look for it since there are 300 threads about this but in that site u will get all the facts about it since it was in their podcast all this crap was announced
lol ok
I don't remember a monthly fee being discussed, but ok :)
it mayhave been somewhere else i dont remenber but all i kno its that a montly fee is also a RUMOR, like this whole thing.. let me check where i got it from
it's all speculation now, but no Dedi servers is pretty much confirmed. the podcast has an IW staff there.
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Veni Vidi Vici on October 18, 2009, 08:41:13 PM
I think the mods on the forum deleting all the threads about it, thats confirmation enough. lol
Lol...yup...that confirmed it for me. They are deleting everything on the forum. All of the petitions keep getting deleted too...at least that's what the posters there are saying.
If people keep up with the shit storms, I think IW might rethink their strategy and perhaps offer dedi's later on in a patch or something. Then again, I'm sure IW has invested a ton of money into this IWNET system and I don't think they're going to just drop it.
All that extra money they "invested" would be coming from that extra $10 price tag on the game, to support there servers. Dont be surprised one bit if a monthly fee comes along somewhere, as well as $$ for DLC.
That's extreme. Come on. There will be no monthly fee. Steam doesn't even have a yearly fee. There will be no fee. DLC.....maybe.
I know DLC for xbox is usually pushed for a fee by Microsoft, NOT the developer, etc.
IWnet shouldn't be all that bad. I know there will be little-no modding, maps, etc. But it's shouldn't be that bad.
We have NO IDEA how good or bad it will be until we get our hands on it. period.
Hey there Cha-Cha-Cha-ChayCh-eye,
I have a really bad feeling about how IWNET is going to perform. It's entirely local host driven so it's basically just like Xbox Live where someone hosts the game and everyone runs off that persons bandwidth. Along with not having nearly as many players as we are used to on PC, the host usually has an unfair advantage(zero lag) and everyone else usually has lag to deal with. The lag may not be horrible, but I'm kinda spoiled in that regard. I usually don't play on a server if my ping is over 100. The lag would be worse than that.
To me, if it's anything like Xbox Live, the game is ruined. I freely admit I've become a Lag Snob. If someone has a "lag advantage" and the rest have to deal with aiming a little ahead of your enemy, I don't want any part of it.
I was planning on buying the game. Now I'll pirate it and play the single player and see if it's possible to play spec op over Hamachi or something.
I recommend everyone check out Bad Company 2 that's coming to the PC in March.
Looks and sounds great, plays like BF, WILL HAVE DEDI. SERVERS!
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Major Chachi on October 18, 2009, 08:46:42 PM
VENIIIII!!
lol
Lan>Dedi>XBL....we all know
host does not have 0 lag. They do have a slight advantage. NOT game tipping. There are ways to give host to people in private games. Who cares who has host in pubs....srssly? Also, IWnet will look for the best host as well.....
XBL isn't the shaft...come on....
Private servers we can give host to people.
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Evilgenius on October 18, 2009, 10:35:16 PM
it will all be ok my children for i will give ye hope. ye will have dedi.
i know this because i personally had the VP of IW at my house...
this is part of a convo me and him had earlier...
Quote
me: it rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again..
Quote
VP: Q.Q ok ok ill give you dedi!!!!!!!
your welcome cod world
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Major Chachi on October 18, 2009, 10:41:41 PM
there wil be dedi servers for sure, especially when IW sees what the hell happend to the preorders
hard to say if they will care enough to do something about it. having sales from 2 consoles certainly puts them in a comfy spot no matter what really.
Not only this, but just think of all the noobs(console kids and noob pc gamers alike) that have no idea of whats even happening here, with the game, with dedicated servers. There sales will still be strong for console, and I would be willing to bet, still somewhere in the range of 60%-80% as strong as normal for PC sales. Sad cold hard truth. There are just to many casual gamers out there, that have no clue that the dedicated servers they play on, are actually run by a person and or clan. So to them, its no big deal, IW still pockets there money plus an extra $10 for the game. So in the end, they still make the difference. oh and also.................
6 months from now when the community demands new maps, because there are no MOD tools for community members to make maps with(such as bridge) They will make the maps, have no fear, they will make them. Just dont be shocked when you see it costs you $10-$20 for 3 maps, and some new weapon skins.
So now your $60 game, just added $10-$20 in value, right? Oh wait, you need more maps? You need promod? You need TWL, "sorry community, it takes our developers time to make these things on our glorious IW.net(sorry for the outage last week this whole server hosting is new to us but lube will be in the mail for everyone) and time is money right? Please deposit another $15 to continue playing MW2.\
Again, thanks but no thanks......
BF BC2 here Comes the MASSIVE PC Gamer population. And in all honesty, COD series hasnt been the same since UO/COD2.
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Sounds on October 19, 2009, 09:19:07 AM
there wil be dedi servers for sure, especially when IW sees what the hell happend to the preorders
hard to say if they will care enough to do something about it. having sales from 2 consoles certainly puts them in a comfy spot no matter what really.
Not only this, but just think of all the noobs(console kids and noob pc gamers alike) that have no idea of whats even happening here, with the game, with dedicated servers. There sales will still be strong for console, and I would be willing to bet, still somewhere in the range of 60%-80% as strong as normal for PC sales. Sad cold hard truth. There are just to many casual gamers out there, that have no clue that the dedicated servers they play on, are actually run by a person and or clan. So to them, its no big deal, IW still pockets there money plus an extra $10 for the game. So in the end, they still make the difference. oh and also.................
6 months from now when the community demands new maps, because there are no MOD tools for community members to make maps with(such as bridge) They will make the maps, have no fear, they will make them. Just dont be shocked when you see it costs you $10-$20 for 3 maps, and some new weapon skins.
So now your $60 game, just added $10-$20 in value, right? Oh wait, you need more maps? You need promod? You need TWL, "sorry community, it takes our developers time to make these things on our glorious IW.net(sorry for the outage last week this whole server hosting is new to us but lube will be in the mail for everyone) and time is money right? Please deposit another $15 to continue playing MW2.\
Again, thanks but no thanks......
BF BC2 here Comes the MASSIVE PC Gamer population. And in all honesty, COD series hasnt been the same since UO/COD2.
Ya, the true reason for doing this can only be for DLC support to rake in more money. After seeing how xbox numbers did using DLC to assrape people, it's not much wonder why they would want to do something like this. if you toss in what 402 said in the past, "What wasn't fantastic was the percentage of those numbers who were playing on stolen copies of the game on stolen / cracked CD keys of pirated copies (and that was only people playing online)," he posted under the heading "They Wonder Why People Don't Make PC Games Any More."
Makes even more sense they would try to control online pc gaming more...they may have thought the backlash would be less though.
Also, IW probably made well over $2,000,000, with just the map pack DLC for xbox360...As of summer 2008, they had sold 1.5 million copies of the map pack @ $10 each
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: vonDuTch on October 19, 2009, 10:42:28 AM
i'm just hoping they wont make such a stupid misstake!!
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: werth on October 19, 2009, 11:41:51 AM
I am somewhat optimistic... here's some possible outcomes:
1 a) They stick to the plan, everything off IWnet... we can play "matches" run off their private server setups. not as much freedom as modded servers, but more than CoD4 stock... we could make it work.
b) they cave and "improve" their IWnet private servers to cater to competitive matches... hopefully enough that its similar to modded servers (ie CAL mod, promod).
2) I am fairly confident this can still be cracked/ran off a server.. I'm not programmer, but I'm sure it can be done (hopefully a better solution than sticking a gfx card in a server).
3) And I think this is the likely scenario.... I think they will release the capability to run a dedicated server, in conjunction to IWnet... it may not be right away, but I think it will happen, especially if they get a petition in the hundreds of thousands.... 90% of the people playing, mostly noobs, will still use IWnet...
though, im still cancelling my pre-order because ill just play cracked SP, and multi on Xbox360.
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Veni Vidi Vici on October 19, 2009, 12:12:34 PM
I am somewhat optimistic... here's some possible outcomes:
1 a) They stick to the plan, everything off IWnet... we can play "matches" run off their private server setups. not as much freedom as modded servers, but more than CoD4 stock... we could make it work.
b) they cave and "improve" their IWnet private servers to cater to competitive matches... hopefully enough that its similar to modded servers (ie CAL mod, promod).
2) I am fairly confident this can still be cracked/ran off a server.. I'm not programmer, but I'm sure it can be done (hopefully a better solution than sticking a gfx card in a server).
3) And I think this is the likely scenario.... I think they will release the capability to run a dedicated server, in conjunction to IWnet... it may not be right away, but I think it will happen, especially if they get a petition in the hundreds of thousands.... 90% of the people playing, mostly noobs, will still use IWnet...
though, im still cancelling my pre-order because ill just play cracked SP, and multi on Xbox360.
Ewww! Did you just say you're gonna play it on the 360? I think I'm going to be sick. Do I need to set up some sort of intervention there Werth? Thumbsticks and FPS's are like pubes and ice cream. They should never be mixed.
But anyway, if anyone wants to sign one of the petitions, here's one:
The one on IW's forum was huge and then they deleted it. Those fuckers! Someone started a new one there and it's still only about half as big as the first one was. Not sure if I want to sign up to sign it, especially since I'm not sure it will do much. Here's to hoping.
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: DirtOne on October 19, 2009, 12:17:23 PM
veni here's the on i signed t has 63.000+ ppl signed up :D
they cant ignore this huge amount of ppl
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Vlad on October 19, 2009, 12:19:50 PM
IW is so fucked if they let this just slide buy
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: vonDuTch on October 19, 2009, 12:42:38 PM
i've listend to bash radio record http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2369799 there may stil be another option, and that is that they absolute want to the pc version up on 10.11.09 while using steam, and then make a patch with dedi server support, thats what some guy said could happen, not saying it will but could happen...
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: werth on October 19, 2009, 12:44:15 PM
Ewww! Did you just say you're gonna play it on the 360? I think I'm going to be sick. Do I need to set up some sort of intervention there Werth? Thumbsticks and FPS's are like pubes and ice cream. They should never be mixed.
ya i play a little on 360 when my buddies come over because they dont understand the whole PC/clan thing.. they're just nabbers who like simple 360 shit...
that and i dont tell them im in a clan 8)
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Veni Vidi Vici on October 19, 2009, 12:56:15 PM
Ewww! Did you just say you're gonna play it on the 360? I think I'm going to be sick. Do I need to set up some sort of intervention there Werth? Thumbsticks and FPS's are like pubes and ice cream. They should never be mixed.
ya i play a little on 360 when my buddies come over because they dont understand the whole PC/clan thing.. they're just nabbers who like simple 360 shit...
veni here's the on i signed t has 63.000+ ppl signed up :D
they cant ignore this huge amount of ppl
Hey Dirty,
Yeah, I think that's the exact same petition that I signed. We just used different addresses. I'm not sure about the petition working, but if enough pre-orders are cancelled, I think that would send a much bigger signal to IW. I'm doing both! >:( ;D
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: DirtOne on October 19, 2009, 01:05:33 PM
Ewww! Did you just say you're gonna play it on the 360? I think I'm going to be sick. Do I need to set up some sort of intervention there Werth? Thumbsticks and FPS's are like pubes and ice cream. They should never be mixed.
ya i play a little on 360 when my buddies come over because they dont understand the whole PC/clan thing.. they're just nabbers who like simple 360 shit...
veni here's the on i signed t has 63.000+ ppl signed up :D
they cant ignore this huge amount of ppl
Hey Dirty,
Yeah, I think that's the exact same petition that I signed. We just used different addresses. I'm not sure about the petition working, but if enough pre-orders are cancelled, I think that would send a much bigger signal to IW. I'm doing both! >:( ;D
Yea that's what every self respected gamer is doing.. al over i keep reading ppl canceling pre orders.. i hope IW gets the message
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: heartsfan on October 19, 2009, 01:22:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUpZVnceJx4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FKty5Kpf4w
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Major Chachi on October 19, 2009, 02:40:26 PM
Ewww! Did you just say you're gonna play it on the 360? I think I'm going to be sick. Do I need to set up some sort of intervention there Werth? Thumbsticks and FPS's are like pubes and ice cream. They should never be mixed.
ya i play a little on 360 when my buddies come over because they dont understand the whole PC/clan thing.. they're just nabbers who like simple 360 shit...
that and i dont tell them im in a clan 8)
I am a proud owner of an Xbox 360! You are a traitor for calling the 360 simple....noob! :p
I will probably do what Werth is. SP on PC and multi with a ton of buddies here at college!
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: vonDuTch on October 19, 2009, 02:48:42 PM
stil pc pwns console @ everything
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Veni Vidi Vici on October 19, 2009, 03:39:03 PM
Predictably, nerds across world took to the Internet with a wailing and a gnashing of teeth that would make the Left 4 Dead community proud. An online petition to bring back dedicated servers at the time of this writing stands at 100,000+ signatures. However -- and this may shock some gamers with advanced persecution complexes -- this move was not made to tweak the noses of the PC community. Infinity Ward heads Jason West and Vince Zampella explain the decision as a conscious effort to improve their game for the vast majority of their players.
"We're just prioritizing the player experience above the modders and the tuners," says West. He points toward the mounting feedback IW has received from PC fans of Modern Warfare who couldn't find a decent server to play on between all of the cheaters, the insular communities, and huge skill level disparities that the original game's community fractured into. "We thought maybe it would be cool if the fans could play the game," he laughs.
IW says that gameplay concerns for the majority of MW2 players are the overriding reasons for the decision. Zampella downplays the obvious piracy prevention angle (IW has cited numbers of people online playing illegal copies of Modern Warfare up to 60 percent). "The Steam stuff helps with the piracy. I don't know that the matchmaking stuff does," he notes. West takes a shot at the motives behind some of the outrage, noting that there's money to made by selling dedicates servers and adspace on them: "It's a little dubious. Some of the people complaining are complaining with their pocketbook."
Again and again during our conversation, West and Zampella hammer the point that hardcore PC players lose very little to this change relative to the returns that casual to moderate fans will see. Clans can set up private matches to do their training or what have you; all they lose is the ability to customize the game on a deeper level with mods and such. Infinity Ward sees the addition of solid matchmaking and community support like IW-run tournaments to the PC as a huge win, and not something that could be done under the old system.
Why not have both? West does not want to include dedicated servers alongside the custom-built backend, stating that it would just "bifurcate the community."
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: vonDuTch on October 20, 2009, 02:55:07 PM
fck it, no more dedi servers............
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Veni Vidi Vici on October 20, 2009, 04:36:05 PM
Predictably, nerds across world took to the Internet with a wailing and a gnashing of teeth that would make the Left 4 Dead community proud. An online petition to bring back dedicated servers at the time of this writing stands at 100,000+ signatures. However -- and this may shock some gamers with advanced persecution complexes -- this move was not made to tweak the noses of the PC community. Infinity Ward heads Jason West and Vince Zampella explain the decision as a conscious effort to improve their game for the vast majority of their players.
"We're just prioritizing the player experience above the modders and the tuners," says West. He points toward the mounting feedback IW has received from PC fans of Modern Warfare who couldn't find a decent server to play on between all of the cheaters, the insular communities, and huge skill level disparities that the original game's community fractured into. "We thought maybe it would be cool if the fans could play the game," he laughs.
IW says that gameplay concerns for the majority of MW2 players are the overriding reasons for the decision. Zampella downplays the obvious piracy prevention angle (IW has cited numbers of people online playing illegal copies of Modern Warfare up to 60 percent). "The Steam stuff helps with the piracy. I don't know that the matchmaking stuff does," he notes. West takes a shot at the motives behind some of the outrage, noting that there's money to made by selling dedicates servers and adspace on them: "It's a little dubious. Some of the people complaining are complaining with their pocketbook."
Again and again during our conversation, West and Zampella hammer the point that hardcore PC players lose very little to this change relative to the returns that casual to moderate fans will see. Clans can set up private matches to do their training or what have you; all they lose is the ability to customize the game on a deeper level with mods and such. Infinity Ward sees the addition of solid matchmaking and community support like IW-run tournaments to the PC as a huge win, and not something that could be done under the old system.
Why not have both? West does not want to include dedicated servers alongside the custom-built backend, stating that it would just "bifurcate the community."
These dipshits are so fucking clueless. Who are these idiots? Probably marketing idiots that have nothing to do with the development and know nothing about PC gaming. Seriously, it sounds like they know nothing about gaming on the PC except for what some focus group full of noobs told them. I still can't believe how stupid IW is.
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: Veni Vidi Vici on October 20, 2009, 04:55:32 PM
If IW really thinks this will be good and just thinks people need to try it out and see how great it is, then they need to put out a multiplayer demo for people to experience it first hand.
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: vonDuTch on October 20, 2009, 05:18:01 PM
agreed
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: ReDeMpTiON on November 01, 2009, 02:49:20 PM
I canceled my pre order so damn fast when I found this out. I hate Xbox-ish online gameplay, the matchmaking blows huge dick.
Title: Re: No dedicated servers for MW2
Post by: DirtOne on November 02, 2009, 10:39:48 AM