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Title: Problem
Post by: Major Chachi on October 27, 2009, 02:54:15 PM
So here is the deal,

My school's internet has been having problems with high ping and maxed out bandwidth.  The tech support says it's because a lot of the students are streaming videos, i.e. youtube, hulu, etc.

Say they are right, which I think students are.  Does this affect BOTH ping and bandwidth?!?!?!  I don't think so, but I have been pushing to have something done, ANYTHING, but they have shown no progress nor shown any future of progress.

So, my question is,

If there are a lot of students streaming via online media, does that make our bandwidth AND ping suffer (HORRIBLY)?

AND

If adding more Bandwidth will solve the problem of ping?


As I understand, ping and bandwidth are two totally separate items.



PLEASE HELP!  We are meeting with some admins soon and want our facts straight.  Please help! 
Title: Re: Problem
Post by: vonDuTch on October 27, 2009, 02:59:40 PM
i have no clue
Title: Re: Problem
Post by: Knott on October 27, 2009, 04:40:05 PM
Bandwidth is your entire pipe width... ping is delay, if your constantly streaming your ping is gonna rocket up cause your pipe is full, increase bandwidth. Your ping is your upload speed, if people are streaming live video they are using huge chunks of bandwidth thus increasing ping and bottle neckin' the network,,,,, BAD!!!. If their just downloading vids off youtube then just simply increase your bandwidth to like OC-12 and you wouldn't notice it, although OC-12 is not cheap. 622 Mbit/s - $15,000 a month ?
Title: Re: Problem
Post by: Evilgenius on October 27, 2009, 05:19:16 PM
your ping is your upload speed?

lost me there knott lol


increase bandwidth = better ping but not likely though cause more bandwidth there is then more people will use it and you will be in the same boat your in now

its like playing cod while you are downloading torrents or something.

options=  get more bandwidth, or block all the videos site + p2p.

Title: Re: Problem
Post by: Knott on October 27, 2009, 05:22:59 PM
lol whoops, upload determines ping!! lol backwards
Title: Re: Problem
Post by: Evilgenius on October 27, 2009, 05:25:15 PM
try again lol
Title: Re: Problem
Post by: Evilgenius on October 27, 2009, 05:27:31 PM
ping is affected by your upload... if its congested..

but its really how good "quality" or close your connection is to the server
Title: Re: Problem
Post by: Knott on October 27, 2009, 06:06:50 PM
ok bill nye lol!!!!
Title: Re: Problem
Post by: NoBS|Thirsty on October 27, 2009, 08:42:24 PM
Arnt there some ingame commands you can type into the console to lower ping?

I dont know them, but maybe bill nye can help us....... ;D
Title: Re: Problem
Post by: Evilgenius on October 27, 2009, 09:01:06 PM
nope i dont ever need them cause my connection pwns :D
Title: Re: Problem
Post by: Vlad on October 27, 2009, 09:28:56 PM
nope i dont ever need them cause my connection pwns :D

But you should still know =P
Title: Re: Problem
Post by: Evilgenius on October 27, 2009, 11:08:32 PM
i only know what concerns me lol
Title: Re: Problem
Post by: Major Chachi on October 28, 2009, 12:42:07 AM
WOW offtopic much?  this has NOTHING to do with NoBS, COD.

I have a serious issue. 

I guess you guys think you solved it :p

So increase in bandwidth won't do much 'cause we will just meet that max soon after it's increased.  Makes sense.


What can we do?

Title: Re: Problem
Post by: Evilgenius on October 28, 2009, 07:37:34 AM
like i said block the streaming sites and p2p. :P

check out www.opendns.org
Title: Re: Problem
Post by: DirtOne on October 28, 2009, 11:05:00 AM
WOW offtopic much?  this has NOTHING to do with NoBS, COD.

I have a serious issue. 

I guess you guys think you solved it :p

So increase in bandwidth won't do much 'cause we will just meet that max soon after it's increased.  Makes sense.


What can we do?



Best solution is to ask em to block some sites and p2p like evil said
Title: Re: Problem
Post by: vonDuTch on October 28, 2009, 01:26:48 PM
best solution is to tell everyone to stop using the internet so you can use it all.....
Title: Re: Problem
Post by: Knott on October 28, 2009, 01:53:18 PM
what do you mean its maxed out? what connection do you guys have at a university that's maxed out?? upgrade the shitty connection if its bottle necking. Blocking people from using sites is bogus, that's just gonna piss alot of people off. Sittin' in a dorm in university and cant watch youtube ya that's gonna fly well. Get more money to budget infrastructure for your network obviously its not good enough, it shouldnt be bottle necked. Also if it hasn't been done yet, block all the torrents, p2p networks etc... because not everyone will set their upload at 10-25 kb/s and stop seeding when done leeching. Why cant your administrator enable quota policies? aren't you on a domain? Once they reach their quota for the month they wont have any access to the web, so it would force people to conserve bandwidth, thus no bottle necking.
Title: Re: Problem
Post by: vonDuTch on October 28, 2009, 04:06:51 PM
this is stil the best way!!

best solution is to tell everyone to stop using the internet so you can use it all.....
Title: Re: Problem
Post by: Major Chachi on October 28, 2009, 04:13:56 PM
what do you mean its maxed out? what connection do you guys have at a university that's maxed out?? upgrade the shitty connection if its bottle necking. Blocking people from using sites is bogus, that's just gonna piss alot of people off. Sittin' in a dorm in university and cant watch youtube ya that's gonna fly well. Get more money to budget infrastructure for your network obviously its not good enough, it shouldnt be bottle necked. Also if it hasn't been done yet, block all the torrents, p2p networks etc... because not everyone will set their upload at 10-25 kb/s and stop seeding when done leeching. Why cant your administrator enable quota policies? aren't you on a domain? Once they reach their quota for the month they wont have any access to the web, so it would force people to conserve bandwidth, thus no bottle necking.

ok...I will bring these points to the meeting :)  thanks dude.

The thing is, it just started in the recent months past.  Last two years have been GREAT!
this is stil the best way!!

best solution is to tell everyone to stop using the internet so you can use it all.....



I agree Dutch.  I will send out a worm that blocks everyone but Hav and myself internet :)
Title: Re: Problem
Post by: vonDuTch on October 28, 2009, 04:19:49 PM
k.......lmao