[smitty1258]

the card manhandles the 9800gx2 with beta drivers. i will put my faith in the HWC review... look at high res. the gtx 280 >/= 9800gx2 and the 4870x2 just assrapes it at anything over 1920x1200....

who cares at an unreasonable res? my 24" WS plays at 1900x1200 anything above that means nothing, im not playing on a 56" ws plasma, or lcd, so it makes no difference.

$275 for a card that will max the res of 90% of gamers is the best bang for the buck. period.

I give ATI its props I really do. It looks and sounds like a beast.

[werth]

$275 for a card that will max the res of 90% of gamers is the best bang for the buck. period.

I give ATI its props I really do. It looks and sounds like a beast.

actually your wrong.. the 4850's are $150 a pop. so for about $15 more you can crossfire them and rape the 9800gx2.. check benches 4850's in CF rapes any single card minus the 4870x2. and unlike sli, it doesnt require some shanty ass nvidia chipset. 90% of ppl have intel boards.. and almost all new ones do 8x/8x CF.

[DriveRaider]

4850 in crossfire > GTX 280. 4870 in crossfire PWNS GTX 280, 4870x2 in crossfire is... uber pwnage...

[Evilgenius]

i say if you got the monies buy it and if you do buy me one also

[pcgamer]

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2327347,00.asp?kc=ETRSS02129TX1K0000532

read you freaking fanboys...

[werth]

thats one persons opinion?

[pcgamer]

Sure it is and nor is he saying that the new ATI cards suck, there is just way too much hype ...

[werth]

yea i get it. im not saying ati has suddenly come back and is now king. in fact, nvidia's cards have been just as good, or even better. the difference is ati came in and beat them hard with the price. the 4850 is a better than the 9800gtx and a lot more affordable... the 4870 is better than the 260, and a lot more affordable... the 4870x2 is a heck of a lot better than the 280, and only slightly more. its not that the tech is better, its that the price is better.. all nvidia has to do is drop the prices and suddenly its to square one.

[Super J]

the guy int hat review is full of shit i have to say.  i have a 4850, and i think with the same processor would do better than johnnys 9800gtx overclocked even.  i was getting high 14'2 easy with one card.  also he says the card runs hot.  that is cause the fan is set low.  i have mine at 50% which is very quiet and keeps it 55 degrees@load.  about 43 idle, and if you put it at 100% (which is loud as hell) it will run at about 32-34 degrees.  that is cool to me for a gpu on air. lol.  i dont follow the hype, because i used to be all about nvidia.  but decided to try the ati agian, and i am glad that i did.  also i think crossfire adds more than sli by just a little.